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At HSBC’s Annual General Meeting, shareholders showed their displeasure over the current and panned compensation for senior executives.

Although 88.41% of shareholders approved the remuneration report and 90.2% approves the new executive share plan the mood in the meeting was strongly against the vote. One shareholder stated that it was pointless using the electronic voting machine implying that the Board had already persuaded institutional investors to vote in favour.

PIRC, the UK based corporate governance firm, and the Association of British Insurers had recommended a vote against the new executive share scheme which would enable executives to receive twelve times their base salary in total compensation if they achieved “moderate” targets.

But what was the most memorable aspect of the meeting was the apparent mutual disregard shown to each other by both the shareholders and members of the Board. At one stage, the HSBC Chairman, Stephen Green explained what the Head of the Remuneration Committee, Sir Mark Moody-Stuart had said was, “..if shareholders don’t like HSBC shares, they are free to sell them, and if they don’t like the sector they can get out.”

There were some favourable comments from shareholders but generally they were angry about both the performance of HSBC’s US consumer finance arm and the remuneration of senior executives.

The lengthy meeting (3 hours and 20 minutes) was punctuated with heated comments by shareholders and some derisory comments from the Board members. Eric Knight, of the activist fund manager, Knight Vinke, received particular focus. He was accused of misrepresentation and was told that his calculations were nonsense.

One shareholder, Derek Young, stated that the British Airways chief executive, Willie Walsh, also ran a company that had achieved a 10% growth in profits in the previousyear but due to the problems experienced at Heathrow’s Terminal 5, he had declined a bonus for the year. The shareholder requested HSBC’s executives to consider this approach.

Another shareholder, Brian Dodd, raised the issue concerning the much debated 2005 compensation scheme. The Chairman replied that HSBC had the matter examined by lawyers and a Queens Counsel and had received an opinion that the scheme was legal.

Mr Dodd also complained that over the last three years, HSBC’s Total Shareholder Return had been 9% , whereas inflation had been 11% and the compensation of Stephen Green, Michael Geoghegan and Douglas Flint had increased by 71%, 547% and 61% respectively.

With regard to HFC, Stephen Green defended the business, claiming its importance to the Group’s international credit card operation. He admitted that the Group had learnt lessons but did not admit mistakes nor apologise to shareholders for the £5.5 billion of provisions. Robert Muriel, another shareholder, claimed HFC was a near disaster. He also asked who had suffered as a result of the losses as senior executives had still received their bonuses.

Another shareholder, who did not want to be identified, stated after the meeting that many of the shareholder questions were not answered and that the Chairman avoided the difficult questions by responding with prepared text.

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a guest said:

Both RBS and HSBC say they need to pay to attract and retain good people but they don't hire senior people from outside and they don't have senior people leaving. This is just more money for the boys.
 
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a guest said:

These outlandish pay deals will only do one thing. Bring in legislation to stop them.
 
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a guest said:

I run my own business. When I have a fall in profits even though I have done better than my competition, I don't pay myself more money so why should these guys?
 
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a guest said:

They were the first to see the subprime problems but did nothing about it.
 
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a guest said:

Institutions should have to publish how they voted.
 
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a guest said:

The 2005 pay scheme was a fiddle. They had to change the wording twice. Then they apologised to the owners incase the wording they voted on wasn't clear. But they still paid themselves.
 
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a guest said:

I'm a shareholder too. And I went to the AGM and it was obvious that the Board was against the shareholders. Instead of telling unhappy shareholders to sell their shares they could have just admitted they made a mistake. They say they have to pay themselves more so that they can attract and retain senior people. They don't hire senior people from outside. This remuneration scheme was purely to give themselves more money.
 
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a guest said:

The ABI and PIRC said the share scheme was wrong yet it was approved. Not by the ordinary shareholders but by the institutions in HSBC's pocket.
 
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a guest said:

I agree. They pretend that having to take on the US$ 25 billion SIVs is a strength. If they didn't have to fund them they would be able to do other business. With the SIVs and HFC they made some big mistakes. Why is no one being held accountable? Instead they do the exact opposite and give themselves more pay>
 
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a guest said:

Why thank the board? Look at whats happened to the share price.
 
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a guest said:

The real issue here is that they made a mistake in the US. Not the acquisition of Household but the fact that when they first saw the problems coming they didn't take any action. If they had then the £5.5 bn of provisions wouldn't have been required. Why can't they at least own up to their mistake? What they are doing is pretending that they are perfect. And then they want to pay themselves millions. Look at Standard Chartered and how their share price has performed. I think that the members of the board who said "if you don't like HSBC shares sell them" should be fired. Have they forgotten that their job is to represent shareholders not to fight them!
 
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a guest said:

I am a shareholder, compare the hsbc chart with the other banks, we should thank the board
 
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